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BigPotato
 

Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Sep. 9 (Edited Sep. 9)

Thank you, Roger, for the initial information.
I tried what you suggested, but I did not succeed.

Here is additional information.
"Kitchen" computer
Op System: Window XP with Service pack 2 (it might 3)

Here is the screen readings when I go to connecting to the internet.

LAN or High Speed Connection

Wireless Network Connection
Connected
Net Gear WG 111 802.11gg W . . . .


Local Area Connection

Network cable unplugged
Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network

Does this information help you understand the problem of why I am not able to form a peer-to-peer network?

James
Roger Spicer
Roger Spicer
Instructor
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Sep. 9 (Edited Sep. 10)

Thanks for checking back in but I still need a little more information.

1. I am not sure what you mean by Peer-to-peer (p2p) networking. Do you mean setting up Windows Networking? Have you run the Windows Networking Wizard?

2. You told me one of your computers is a Windows XP system. Is the other also XP or is it Vista?

3. It seems like you have a wireless connection so the Intel Pro Ethernet connection is not required. (As I mentioned in the previous post you can ignore it or disable it.) Do you see available wireless networks when you click the wireless icon in the system tray?

Do you know how to identify the IP address of your computers? Please post the IP addresses.

Hang in there and we will get you networked!

Roger

BTW: click reply to add to this message post rather than starting a new message and I can easliy see what you posted earlier. Easier to keep track.
BigPotato
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Sep. 12 (Edited Sep. 14)

I want to be able to have the "Kitchen" computer communicate (use common files, printer etc) with the "Office" computer (is this the correct meaning of peer-to-peer?)

Both of my computers are XP

I have tried to set up the network with the Microsoft Network Wizard. I have received the following message:

Other computer cannot connect to the Internet through this computer[Office computer] In addition to the internet connection, this computer must have a connection to your internet.

Attached are several files that I have downloaded to show the system as recorded in each of the computers.

Let me know if more information is needed.

James
Added Monday September 14, 2009
My router is a Netgear Wireless router. WGR614 V4 Serial # WR67344SA227544

This may not be needed additional data but. . Default Access is http//192.168.0.1

Attached files:
Kitchen Network.odt (509KB)
Kitchen scan.odt (838KB)
kitch ipconfig.odt (454KB)
Kitchen Screen.odt (830KB)
office ipconfig.odt (112KB)
Roger Spicer
Roger Spicer
Instructor
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Sep. 13

I will have a look at these files and try to post some suggestions tomorrow. -= for those unfamiliar with the .odt file extension, it is for OpenOffice, the full features Word compatible word processor.

One more thing. Do you gave a router? The Internet sharing message sounds like something from Microsoft's ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) that allows one computer to connect to the Internet through another computer that is attached to a modem. I don't think this is what you want. The Microsoft Network Wizard is the correct tool for you.

If you have a router, let me know what model.

Roger
BigPotato
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Sep. 14

My router is a Netgear 54Mbps Wireless Router WGR614 v4 Serial Number 67344SA227544

This may not be needed but the Default address is http//192.168.0.1
BigPotato
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Sep. 18

Hello Roger

I am just checking to see if you did get the last message (my router information) that I sent to you. If you have been busy elsewhere that is understandable.

James
Roger Spicer
Roger Spicer
Instructor
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Sep. 20

Hi James, sorry for the delay...

All of the information you have listed so far looks ok - that is there is nothing I can see from that information that would prevent you from sharing on your network. Let's look at a couple more possibilities.

Do you have security/firewall software installed? disable any firewalls to insure that is not blocking your sharing. This is a rather common problem and I should have asked sooner B-(

Also, on Windows Firewall check to insure file and print sharing are allowed. Launch Windows Firewall (from the control panel) and make sure the the 'Don't allow exceptions' box is NOT checked. click on the exceptions tab. Look for ' File and Printer Sharing and insure that the box is checked. Click edit and insure that all boxes are checked - see the attached jpg file.

On each system, right click on 'My Computer' and choose 'Properties' from the menu. Check the 'Computer Name' tab in the System Properties window. You should see a unique name but the SAME workgroup listed for each computer. If the workgroup names are different, that would be your problem you could easily correct with the 'Change' button on that tab. Make sure there are no trailing blank spaces after the workgroup name - you wouldn't see them on the information tab.

View your workgroup computers (you can select this from the left pane while viewing 'My Network Places'). Do you see your other computer (it must be turned on!).

From a DOS/commmand window (Start > Run then type cmd) type -= ping IPaddress =- replacing IPaddress with the address of the other system. What is the result? Do this at each system using the other systems address.

Well, that is a lot to try. I hope it shines some light on the problem.

Let me know the results and we will go from there. If things look OK but still no connections You may need to try running the Networking Wizard once again!

Good Luck!

Roger



Attached pictures:
Firewall exceptions - file and print.jpg (49KB) Download
BigPotato
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Oct. 20

I believe that I have followed your suggestions as to what to verify. I have attached 3 screens from each of my computers (Kitchen and Office). I hope tells you something about any possible errors on my part.

I have the following questions:
1. I believe that I had all firewalls not functioning. Is there a way that I can verify that by running a cmd line or a program?

2. Do pings pass through all fire walls?

Thank you

Jim Gayner

Attached files:
KitNC.odt (528KB)
KitWorkGroups.odt (554KB)
KitMCProperties.odt (913KB)
OffMCProperties.odt (975KB)
OffMyNetworkPlaces.odt (541KB)
BigPotato
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Oct. 20

I apparently used the maximum capacity with 5 files. Here us the sixth

Attached files:
OffNC.odt (558KB)
Roger Spicer
Roger Spicer
Instructor
 

Re: Peer-to-peer (continued)

Posted: Oct. 23

Hi again James,

From the pictures it looks like the kitchen computer can see the office shared folder "shareoffice on dell 4600". What happens when you click on that folder?

Generally pings are blocked by firewalls. Unfortunately it is sometimes difficult to know if a firewall is fully turned off. Because they are integrated so closely with the operating system they can be rather difficult to shut down or even to remove! Add in the fact that multiple systems have firewalls and even networking devices (like your router) may have firewall functions and you see how tough troubleshooting a security issue can be.

Did you ping? Here is how:
# Open the command window by clicking START, then RUN. Type CMD, and hit Enter or click OK.
# Type "ping" Hit the space bar once and type the IP or website address that you want to ping. For example, if you want to ping eBay, type "ping www.ebay.com"; or, if you want to ping your Router, it might be "ping 192.168.1.1"
# Hit "Enter." Your system will send 4 pings. If the target system is up and actively responding, you receive replies with the following information:

* The IP address
* The number of Bytes sent
* The time it took in milliseconds
* The TTL is Time to Live (This indicated the number of "hops" back from the computer pinged from that computers initial TTL value.)

If you do not get any replies, it is lkely there is a firewall somewhere and that is the reasons you cannot share files.

Try to ping from each system.

Roger
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